by 0x8218a2445679e38f358e42f88fe2125c98440d59 (1010)
Should the scene located at -145,113 be removed from the Point of Interest list?
Previously claimed to be used for the upcoming XETAPLEX but since then, plot of land has been put up for sale.
The only scene that is deployed is a replica of Cyberlove, which as of now, is located at 133,131.
Images below for reference.
Previously, issue was brought up that xeta should be not selling his plot of estate with POI as a selling point, to which he has clarified that he did not have said intentions. Benefit of doubt was given after a public conversation in Discord.
Unfortunately, a similar incident has occured a month later. Screenshots were taken on 25/7/23.
It would seem that there’s an intention to sell the aforementioned plot of land, after a POI has been passed almost recently to enact this estate.
To this, I question the intent of @Xeta
Proposal link to POI is here:
@Canessa @SinfulMeatStick @ckbubbles @szjanko @potradamus @Peanutbutta
I would implore that you reconsider your decision on the matter as community leaders. We hold everyone to the highest of standards when it comes to matters related to the DAO, and influential or not, nobody is above the standards that we all consensually set.
edit: to clarify, i meant reconsider your decisions, not reconsider your decision being community leaders.
The land is currently listed for more double the current land floor.
The estate has several active community members as operators on it.
This is trivial. Another great example of the dao spinning its wheels on wastes of time and energy. Things like this ultimately push some of us original creators who could have sold for far more and decided to stick around and build. Tired of this.
The price of your listing doesn’t matter. The matter at hand is that you repeatedly placed land that has a POI attached to it for sale, despite telling the community on discord that you have plans to develop it AFTER you’ve attained the POI.
This is exactly why we don’t condone the act of applying for a POI before any event has been held at that specific location.
To you, the seller, it may be trivial. But to others, this sets a precedence. If we allow such a behaviour to happen once, to someone as affluent as you, how then, do we tell the next guy who commits a similar act, that we don’t condone such acts, without being a hypocrite.
It applies to this, as well as to every other proposal.
The land is still in use from time to time by Xeta. It should keep its POI until it is sold to a new owner. And then the new owner would have to take the necessary steps to regain a POI.
I agree with Roustan. The land is still being used for community events. The POI can be removed if and should it sell. (I.e. I had to remove the BVERSE POI after I learned the owner sold the land after our lease ended)
Thanks Xeta for continuing to bulid on it in the meantime!
I can assure you, I will personally submit a poi removal if/when this sells. Removing it preemptively is like listing your house for sale then moving out with all the belongings the day you listed it. I’ll request the removal of the star once it’s no longer mine.
Tangpoko and other community members have free rein of utilization of this space until further notice. If anyone in the community wants to use it, they are free to. They just need to ask.
Hi, I wanted to clarify something here about the museum lot.
The reason this was a POI, and the reason it’s listed as such - is because of the build on top of it.
I personally built a wearables museum for L1s that I gave to Xeta for free, and the community voted to give it a POI because it was cool. If it has more value because of that - ok? What’s the issue? If the new buyer wants to retain the build and community creations, that’s great, if not, that’s their right and the POI will probably change.
Xeta has always supported builders and users, and never asked for anything, not even rent in return for deploying on his prime real estate.
Acting like Xeta is somehow pulling a fast one, after deciding to put his land for sale (which may not even sell and is continuing to be developed), which is a personal financial decision we have no right to try pull morals over, is outright atrocious, especially given all that he has delivered to DCL without ever asking for a grant.
I voted ‘no’ for the following reasons:
POI aren’t permanent. And if a person requested it, and it was approved, and they still own the land, then, imo, it should stay. Even if the land is put up for sale.
Furthermore, imo, POI are markers for builds, not land, so if the next owner buys land with the same build on it, then why should the POI be removed?
For example, if I had a pizza business and has a big sign out front, and I sold the business to a new owner that intended to run the same business, the sign would go along for the sale right?
If the new owner decided instead to sell Chinese food, then the sign would no longer be applicable, in fact it would be detrimental to the business, and would or should then be changed or removed.
POI’s, imo, are just that, simply map labels to actual places of interest (POI) for visitors, so if they have any monetary value at all it is de minimis. And if the scene still exists after a sale, then the POI should in fact still be valid.
So, imo, I doubt that somehow could really profit, beyond what they normally would, simply because the land sold has POI designation.
More than that, once the land sold, and if the community really felt the new owner isn’t doing what is necessary to maintain a POI marker, then they can easily put in a proposal to have it removed at that time, and it would be gone in a week or so. So I doubt that any buyer would assign any real value to a POI marker because: it isn’t owned, not permanent, and can be quicky revoked by the community.
To clarify, I am the operator of the 5x10 estate. Yes, Cyberlove was temporarily on this land for testing purposes. If anyone explored the parcel, they may have also seen my Mushrooms, the Sphere, the Vertex Hive, and other builds that I have deployed on the land. I use this space to showcase past builds or experiment with new ones, and I will also be occasionally throwing community events here!
I am grateful to Xeta for giving me the opportunity to express myself on his land. In fact, there are many landowners in DCL who allow builders access to their estates (some of them even have POI!). I for one would not be here without their generous support and encouragement.
This proposal makes no sense. I highly doubt that the POI star makes the estate more attractive to a potential buyer, as we can/will simply vote to remove it until a new owner proves themselves. Any potential buyer who takes a cursory glance at the DAO forums will be aware of that. Furthermore, Xeta is a highly respected community member who has done a lot for Decentraland, and the suggestion that he is doing something unsavory here is ignorant and insulting.
Xeta has and will continue to contribute so much to the DCL community. Do not remove any POIs from Xeta. Xeta is to DCL like ham is to burger. Stop it!
Remove the location -145,113 from the Points of Interest
This proposal is now in status: REJECTED.
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