btw @ArtReYou they already claimed the name, don’t be so harsh with that
I still don’t see what kind of DCL Name he claimed. Imo it should be a requirement to own a DCL Name before you can ask for a grant. 100 MANA isn’t a huge amount for a unique name and 100 VP
My bad, sorry! I thought the name was claimed if there were no numbers here:
All good, no big deal
That’s a visual glitch I reported about a week or so ago in help channel. No name ‘Lujube’ exists. I’ll check out the proposal more in depth tomorrow, but from a quick glance, everything he’s describing can already be seen in MM mobile browser.
Thanks for your comments.
I just claimed a DCL name and I feel better now. Thanks for the warning.
I also want to say a few words about the benefits of having a mobile app besides a website:
People prefer in-app experiences over websites.
Mobile users spend 88% of their time on apps.
(source: Apps Far Outpace Browsers in US Adults’ Mobile Time Spent - Insider Intelligence Trends, Forecasts & Statistics)
Mobile apps usually work faster than websites.
Almost always, mobile apps have smaller footprint than websites.
Apps are designed with a mobile-only approach. On the other hand, websites are designed with a desktop-first/mobile-second approach.
Mobile-specific design results in better UX and allows intuitive usage.
iOS still does not support web push notifications however, there is no such limitation for mobile push notifications.
Almost all known web platforms (Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, etc.) have their mobile apps although they have a website app because of the benefits of having a mobile app.
I understand your concern about the login feature. It is on the list because the app users are requesting this feature .
If it stays on the roadmap and is implemented in the future, it will never be a requirement to use the app.
I am kindly requesting you to re-consider your vote based on my comments.
… and @maraoz thanks for highlighting that this is a proposal for further development of a working product. It is not for an idea and not even for a prototype.
There is already a great amount of software development effort invested in it.
I tried to submit a detailed proposal but in case if anything is unclear I will be happy to answer your questions.
Hi @Frank ,
Thank your for your comment.
I claimed a DCL name.
I tried to elaborate on the benefits of having a mobile app in my post on the main thread.
Thank you for your response. Though I personally think its a bit silly (the insistence for a name claim for grants) the community has moved towards this stance as a way of showing commitment to DCL and contributing to the ecosystem in a small way. I appreciate the initiative and I hope they will too.
In regards to the mobile app you have developed vs. simply viewing the marketplace on a mobile browser, are their other benefits to having the mobile app? From what I’m seeing upon review, the only main difference is that you can add specific items/land to a watchlist, and then receive push notifications when a change occurs? Is that accurate? Or are there other benefits as well?
You can essentially do the same thing within polygonscan/etherscan/opensea in my understanding.
I’m sure if I were to download the app, I would see any other differences, but I am EXTREMELY cautious over what I put on my devices that are connected in any way to my wallet. I hope you can understand my apprehension.
I will say there are are features mentioned in your Roadmap and milestones section which seem promising. (Mainly the in app messaging) My concern would be whether or not the community would widely adopt a 3rd party app to the point it would be this would be beneficial.
I appreciate the time and effort you have put forth, and please don’t be discouraged by my feedback in any way.
As I said in my comment, the main benefit of a mobile app is achieving far better UX. This is why people spend 88% of their online time on apps rather than websites. This is why all companies invest in mobile apps although they have websites. Even e-commerce stores have their own apps and their customers prefer to use them. Of course, we can achieve most of the things that an app promises by other means, but simplicity matters.
Leaving my previous comment here for reference
Thank you for your response and the additional informations. Congratulations for your Name claim aswell. Here is a good Medium article about DCL Names
How would the allocations of the funds looks like and how many hours you worked on this? And where did you get the feedback from? Do you run a Discord Channel?
I don’t say, that i don’t like your idea, but IMO you asked for a lot of money for a app like this.
Hi @ArtReYou ,
Thank you very much for sharing the article. I read it.
How do I collect feedbacks:
The app has a telegram group and a feedback board which is accessible from the app.
People send DMs, e-mails and write store reviews as well.
The effort so far:
I started working on the app in January 2022, the first release was out in March 2022, and the last release was rolled out at the end of June 2002. Research, UI/UX design, coding, testing, website building, bug fixing, app maintenance, communication, and even logo creation is done by one person. This requires a considerable amount of time and effort.
The main motivation of this grant proposal is to be able to bring the app to the next level by improving it.
So please do not assume that the funds to be granted will be only for the app’s existing state.
I need this grant to further improve the app and continue to maintain it as my commitment to the Decentraland Community.
Requested Amount of Grant: USD 32,000
Duration: 6 months
Operational Expenses: USD 1500 (USD 250/month)
Team Compensation: USD 30500 (2 full time + 1 part time team members) (~5100/month for 3 people)
Let me elaborate on this a bit.
Freelance Software Developer Hourly Rate: Ranges from $30-$150, depending on the experience and technology stack.
Let’s assume $60/hour. Even if a single developer with this rate works for only 10 hours/week for the project (obviously which is not enough to build something good) it costs $2400/month. Make it two developers, it costs $4800/month. Again, these numbers are valid only for 10 hours/week. I think you will also agree that 10 hours/week is far less than enough. I hope this explanation makes you change your mind that the grant amount is too much.
Finally, I kindly request again you reconsider your vote.
Thank you for taking time
Ty for taking the time to explain community’s concerns, originally I had voted no, reason was I’m not a fan of having even a crypto wallet downloaded on my phone, I noticed that was a bit selfish of me for those who don’t mind it therefore changed to a yes. Its a great proposal.
Nice name claim btw
Voting Yes, great project for those that are active all the time on the Marketplace!
Hope you can add features to purchase and list directly from the app (in a secure way).
Thank you very much.
Hİ @Eibriel ,
Thank you very much.
Thank you for changing your vote to Yes.
Decentraland Explorer Mobile App
This proposal is now in status: PASSED.
- Yes 100% 2,675,153 VP (57 votes)
- No 0% 0 VP (0 votes)
HI @gokberk, i just went into the app. I know we can’t use profanity here. I just wanna say f-ing well done. The gov proposal was only up 14 days ago, and the app is already up and working well. Amazing, thank you so much on behalf of us DCL users and investors. What would it take to allow scenes to be loaded in the app? Similar to Zepeto. Like the stats you shared, mobile access is so key to onboard the mass audience.
Thank you, I am glad you liked the app. The app has been live since the end of March. The proposal was for further development of the app.
It would be great to play the game inside the app. Unfortunately, it is not in the development scope currently, but it is one of the mid-term objectives.
Thanks for the info @gokberk. That’s great. Is there anything we could do to move that objective forward? I know its a very tough endeavour to port the DCL Kernel into an app. But 1 thing i’m certain is that it will bring a whole lot more users to DCL. And DCL being the OG web3 metaverse, it would be great if we could make this possible whilst other metaverses are still focusing on their user tests and desktop versions.