# Vote yes to return lost land and set the precedent for this moving forward **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Created:** [September 15, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296 "2020-09-15T21:03:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ethen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ethen](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ethen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/1 "2020-09-15T21:03:32Z")
Decentraland community, I come to you with a problem that I have experienced and I am sure that I am not the only person who has experienced. I made a mistake. A devastating, embarrassing, crypto 101 type of mistake. I lost my seed phrase and my Ledger Nano S reset on me. This resulted in a locked wallet with a significant amount of parcels inside of it. What I ask of the community are three things: 1. Let’s set the precedent for this scenario of lost land for the future. 2. Take the time to hear my case (see link below) 3. Vote YES to return my land and simultaneously create a precedent for this situation moving forward. In my presentation below, I will prove to the community the following things: 1. The land is verifiably mine based on evidence from individuals and the blockchain. 2. That this is something we CAN fix moving forward. Here is the link to my presentation: (click this link if you have trouble viewing below:[https://www.loom.com/share/1e50411ca90d46148ae8478e9dfb4624](https://www.loom.com/share/1e50411ca90d46148ae8478e9dfb4624)) Finally, If anyone has any followup questions, you can reach me directly through my email: [EthenOstroff@gmail.com](mailto:EthenOstroff@gmail.com) Vote Yes and let’s fix this scenario, together. - Ethen Ostroff ---
**Author:** ![Ethen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ethen](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ethen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/2 "2020-09-15T21:31:32Z")
Here is the link to my Google Slides if you want to view the links associated: > **[DCL presentation](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/15QXa-tSGUPO0UrmFK_p1oAYZiU2dCgUh9YxfuwcbaJ8/edit?usp=sharing)** > > Why it is okay to return “lost land” to the rightful owner ---
**Author:** ![Doug-NFTWorld](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/doug-nftworld/32/19322_2.png) [@Doug-NFTWorld](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Doug-NFTWorld)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/3 "2020-09-16T03:14:06Z")
Very sorry for your misfortune! Could happen to anybody. And will most assuredly continue to happen as it is human to make mistakes. In my opinion it’s a bad look for DCL to not have a process for recourse in situations like this. Either in the case of mistakes, or bad actors. Sorry that you have had to go through this mental and emotional anguish so far, but I hope it works out for you in the end so that you can rejoin the community with continued vigor, and to set this precedent as peace of mind for those of us (veterans or newbies alike) who understand that we can all potentially be in your shoes in the future. And kudos to the DCL team for allowing the community to weigh in on this. I hope this will lead to the process that we need for returning lost land. Abandoned land is another story. If someone wants to buy a piece of land and not build anything on it until they find a buyer, or have more skills, more time, more capital, more ambition, etc. then so be it. It just means they wont be generating revenue that other landowners with content will be generating in the meantime. Eventually the market will catch up with flippers naturally. I dont think a no-build punishment should be enforced. That being said, the issue of lost land is much more important. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![mawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@mawa](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/mawa)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/4 "2020-09-16T05:51:30Z")
Hopefully something can be done for you to be able to recover your lost property. I’m sure the community will be in support of your request because it’s something that can happen to anyone, and will continue to happen as @Doug-NFTWorld mentioned. Fingers crossed ---
**Author:** ![CarlFravel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/carlfravel/32/65_2.png) [@CarlFravel](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/CarlFravel)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/5 "2020-09-16T13:28:20Z")
I would like to see this go for a vote on the DAO. I would vote yes. You have given a great example, making a case with well documented evidence. The community does need to create a judiciary function. ---
**Author:** ![yemel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/yemel/32/327_2.png) [@yemel](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/yemel)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/6 "2020-11-30T20:17:57Z")
FYI: This proposal [has been approved by the DAO](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/0x0741ab50b28ed40ed81acc1867cf4d57004c29b6/vote/15). For updates [check this thread](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-to-the-rightful-owner-and-protect-your-land-from-the-unexpected/348). ---
**Author:** ![Ethen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ethen](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ethen)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/7 "2020-12-01T14:29:37Z")
Thank you, Yemel. I have been advised that there may be a next step required though. This didn’t actually execute a transaction to return the land to me. What do you recommend that I do next? ---
**Author:** ![yemel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/yemel/32/327_2.png) [@yemel](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/yemel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/8 "2020-12-03T03:34:05Z")
Hi Ethen, After checking the [community voting guide](https://docs.decentraland.org/decentraland/community-voting/) it looks like your proposal has passed the first stage called “inbox filtering” signaling this is an interesting proposal for the DAO. > **Inbox filtering** : The community has seven days to view it. This pase serves as an initial filter to find proposals that the community has an interest in. _\>1 % Minimum Approval and \>25% Support needed_ > > _After 7 days and if approved, the proposal can be **Enacted** to move to the next stage._ However, this is a “Question” proposal and has no on-chain consequences so I **don’t** believe a community voting stage will be started soon. > Miscellaneous proposals without on-chain consequences don’t need to be enacted after the final stage, they are forwarded to the Decentraland Foundation to be enacted upon by them. My suggestion as a next step is to proceed with the specification and development of the smart contract required to return lost land to the rightful owner. Then a proposal that updates the LAND and STATE contracts will be created and will be subject to community voting ([eg. this proposal updates the STATE contract](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/0x41e83d829459f99bf4ee2e26d0d79748fb16b94f/vote/21)). ---
**Author:** ![Archonomous](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/archonomous/32/772_2.png) [@Archonomous](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Archonomous)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/9 "2021-07-27T01:24:09Z")
Hello @yemel and @Ethen, I am checking in to see if there has been any recent progress or findings in this open case? ---
**Author:** ![yemel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/yemel/32/327_2.png) [@yemel](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/yemel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/10 "2021-08-24T23:03:56Z")
Hi all, here is a new proposal about this issue: > **[Allow the DAO to recover lost assets](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=3f890970-052f-11ec-a4d1-8d5d2cba0825)** > > \### Summary ---
**Author:** ![Ethen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ethen](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ethen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/11 "2021-08-25T01:38:32Z")
Hey @Doug-NFTWorld Would love your vote with the new proposal. I appreciate your support so far. [Allow the DAO to recover lost assets](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=3f890970-052f-11ec-a4d1-8d5d2cba0825) ---
**Author:** ![Ethen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ethen](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ethen)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/vote-yes-to-return-lost-land-and-set-the-precedent-for-this-moving-forward/296/12 "2021-08-25T01:42:20Z")
Hey @mawa, Would love the opportunity to earn your vote: > **[Allow the DAO to recover lost assets](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=3f890970-052f-11ec-a4d1-8d5d2cba0825)** > > \### Summary