# Synchronizing with the Foundation **URL:** \ **Category:** Governance\ **Created:** [October 4, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109 "2024-10-04T13:47:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/1 "2024-10-04T13:47:27Z")
How to get both hands to talk together again > [@Regenesis: Let’s meet IRL and revitalize the DAO](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/regenesis-let-s-meet-irl-and-revitalize-the-dao/22690/1): > > To coordinate and balance the power of the Decentraland Foundation > [@DCL DAO: Regenesis Summit Summary](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dcl-dao-regenesis-summit-summary/22961/13): > > Backpack kind of scenarios where someone had a great idea and had our support on it only to have it rugged out from under them by the Foundation creating it themselves > [@DCL DAO: Regenesis Summit Summary](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dcl-dao-regenesis-summit-summary/22961/15): > > about knowing what the Foundation is doing, I think the board should have a member from the Foundation for sure, that would be critical to align on the initiatives between both entities. > [@DCL DAO: Regenesis Summit Summary](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dcl-dao-regenesis-summit-summary/22961/16): > > How can you create an organizational structure now, with people and processes in place, if you don’t even know what the product you’re managing will be in the future? Therefore, The DAO should be indefinitely paused; close the discord, put the remaining treasury into staking protocols; wait for The Foundation to finish their contract terms and then decide how to manage 1) the platform 2) DAO funds. > > - The DAO currently has zero influence in the direction of the platform > - The DAO does not need an organizational structure (yet) > - The DAO spends its majority of funds on grants and nothing else > - I barely (if any) saw any notes on discussions around implementing **Decentralized** technologies to help **Automate** our governance > [@\[DAO:a779859\] Should we restructure the way our DAO operates?](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-a779859-should-we-restructure-the-way-our-dao-operates/23032/24): > > Transferring the DAO’s treasury to the Foundation would miss a crucial opportunity. The DAO has a chance to evolve into an autonomous entity managing its own resources. By transferring funds, we’d give up the autonomy the DAO needs to cultivate. > [@\[DAO:a779859\] Should we restructure the way our DAO operates?](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-a779859-should-we-restructure-the-way-our-dao-operates/23032/24): > > The Foundation should focus on client development, while the DAO invests in creating a vibrant ecosystem of creators and exploring technical innovation outside of the Foundation’s roadmap. ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/2 "2024-10-04T15:14:59Z")
[Placeholder 6 for further analysis] ---
**Author:** ![Sango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Sango](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Sango)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 7:59am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/3 "2024-10-05T07:59:41Z")
One of the main reasons behind the ideas that came from the Lisbon regenesis, of having the executive arm, is to have a direct contact for the foundation to liaise with. Members of the foundation expressed the need for this so that the DAO and the foundations works are working hand in hand without work being duplicated between the two or work being done then left being redundant resulting in a waste of money, time and energy ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/4 "2024-10-05T14:48:52Z")
The internet provides _many_ tools for two teams to remain with proper liaisons during a project. The Foundation recently had All-Hands-Meetings where we had a presentation of the teams projects in progress, and were able to ask them questions directly. And it uses many Slack channels which the DAO could be given access to. Why not expand on these tools instead of introducing what could possibly become bloated government ? ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/5 "2024-10-05T14:52:31Z")
Due to my software architecture expertise, I consider myself as eligible to be part of the [Product Owner](https://www.scrum.org/resources/what-is-a-product-owner) arm of the DAO. I am planning on spinning up a Jira server, where I will start posting the issues I have found in the product, as I truly have found no other way to _feel in control of the evolution of these issues as a Product Owner should_. ---
**Author:** ![Sango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Sango](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Sango)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/6 "2024-10-05T18:28:16Z")
Yes, but without a “head” of the dao, so to speak,(in the ideas that came from lisbon, this would be the director) there is no one for the foundation to liaise with. Right now there is no way for the foundation to ensure all the grants being given out are on projects that are working towards a singular goal. We have so many voices talking from the DAO but we do not currently have one person that can be held accountable for keeping the DAO inline and working on projects that bring progress, this is why i think expanding on the tools will not solve the issue of direction. In the current proposal of the reshaping of the DAO that came from the lisbon summit, it doesnt have a product owner position involved. The idea is to have a council, of which someone with your expertise may well be needed in, that will oversee the decisions and plans made by the executive arm. This council will be a group of people who have been voted in by users VP with a range of expertise to review the plans before the executive arm can start progressing with them. The council will also have the power to remove the director in place if need be. ---
**Author:** ![BET](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/bet/32/29843_2.png) [@BET](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/BET)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/7 "2024-10-07T13:20:48Z")
> [@\[DAO:2086ed3\] Implementing a "Tier Governance Structure" for the DAO](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-2086ed3-implementing-a-tier-governance-structure-for-the-dao/23051): > > by 0xb2223f4038def8a62a86e3c4b108cdfe00a74c4f (Chillin) Should the problem/opportunity outlined be refined and taken to the next level? Problem Statement The Decentraland DAO is currently facing several issues: Concentration of Power: A small number of people with significant Voting Power (VP) can control decisions, which may conflict with the broader community’s interests and Decentraland’s core values. Unorganized Roles: There is no clear structure defining who is funded, how much th… The tier system can really help with communications between the foundation. The 3 problems are: **Decentralization** We have been told that eventually the foundation might step away from the project. So we need to prepare for that. The “Executive arm” is a step towards that goal but doesn’t fully commit to the idea. While the Tier system will align everyone on the same path and as the power of decentralization becomes more robust, the foundation can slowly hand over their roles to the Tier 1s. **Communication** The foundation and Tier 1s needs to be on the same page. Same databases. etc. Not too hard to do.. Giving all the executive decisions to an “executive arm”, just moves the power from one group to another.. Without a democratic system in place eventually one will need to be created and we will need to commit to full decentralization anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/8 "2024-10-31T09:58:56Z")
> [@External Image](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/48.png): > > keeping the DAO inline and working on projects that bring progress I suppose this is a great place to start working on dispelling a deep and grave misunderstanding about the situation at hand. The DAO should be considered as an association of LAND owners. Nothing less… and nothing more ! The DAO should not consider that it needs to be held accountable for anything more than what an association of property owners should be. There is absolutely no need to make things any more complicated than necessary: the only motivation behind _any_ VP vote should be based on considerations regarding what it will do to the value of LAND and MANA. ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/9 "2024-10-31T10:03:56Z")
Do you perceive the virtual triangle in this picture ? _This_ is how decentralization is supposed to work. | | | --- | | ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/decentraland/original/3X/6/7/678e41f3719c57ad08709877bcfe4ba2bb1f62cb.png) | The real problem the DAO of Decentraland has been facing, Is with the crafting of the appropriate tools for clearly delineating, For every one, the virtual shapes of its Decentralized Governance ---
**Author:** ![Ozymandias](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/ozymandias/32/30657_2.png) [@Ozymandias](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/Ozymandias)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/synchronizing-with-the-foundation/23109/10 "2024-10-31T10:18:36Z")
Now what is the point of having LAND if there is not a proper Explorer to visit it ? None really, this is why a client such as the one the Foundation has been maintaining is important. Until the DAO is mature enough to be able to maintain its own Explorers, this is the best path forward at the moment. However, the prerogative of ensuring that the value of LAND and MANA remains, that stays well within the DAO !