# \[DAO:45862f1\] Should we increase VP Thresholds for Governance Process Proposals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Governance\ **Created:** [September 17, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622 "2023-09-17T12:02:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dao](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/dao/32/386_2.png) [@dao](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/dao)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/1 "2023-09-17T12:02:55Z")
> by 0x0636211443e91468ee3657e1d7faede7059c4843 (Nathan) This Poll intends to gather community feedback on increasing VP Thresholds for Governance Process Proposals. Governance Process includes Pre-Proposal Polls, Draft and Binding Governance Proposals. The current Thresholds are as follows: Pre-Proposal Poll - 500K VP Draft Proposal - 1M VP Governance Proposal - 6M VP Given the recent increase in participating VP, raising these Thresholds will ensure important Governance decisions have to reach broad community consensus before approval and to mitigate the risks of Sybil attacks. I propose 2 potential Threshold increases: _ **Option 1: 1.5x Threshold increase** _ - Pre-Proposal Poll - 750K VP - Draft Proposal - 1.5M VP - Governance Proposal - 9M VP _ **Option 2: 2x Threshold increase** _ - Pre-Proposal Poll - 1M VP - Draft Proposal - 2M VP - Governance Proposal - 12M VP - Option 1 - Option 2 - Do Not Change Thresholds - Invalid question/options **[Vote on this proposal on the Decentraland DAO](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=21a0f560-5552-11ee-9f04-6f45955e15fe)** **[View this proposal on Snapshot](https://snapshot.org/#/snapshot.dcl.eth/proposal/0x1eaf2e668e0991becaf17ea433957a6dd43b683148073956bceac176745862f1)** ---
**Author:** ![jar0d](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/jar0d/32/28367_2.png) [@jar0d](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/jar0d)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/2 "2023-09-17T12:10:59Z")
Do we really need to vote on this three times in roughly 4 weeks? ---
**Author:** ![web3nit](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/web3nit/32/27357_2.png) [@web3nit](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/web3nit)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/3 "2023-09-17T13:42:17Z")
I agree that the thresholds should be raised. I’m voting for ‘Option 1’ to move this initiative forward, as I believe a 12M VP threshold for Governance Proposals is too high to start with. One way to proceed IMO, should this proposal pass, is to form a working group for broader Community discussions and input. Here are my thoughts on thresholds: - Pre-Proposal Poll: 1M VP - Draft Proposal: 3M VP - Governance Proposal: 8M VP ---
**Author:** ![maryana](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/maryana/32/18075_2.png) [@maryana](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/maryana)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/5 "2023-09-19T18:42:51Z")
Voting for Option 1 for now, I agree with @web3nit’s suggestions as well. However, we do not want the VP levels to be entirely high and out of reach, since the duration of the Delegated VP from Esteban is not known. ---
**Author:** ![jar0d](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/jar0d/32/28367_2.png) [@jar0d](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/jar0d)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/6 "2023-09-19T23:46:24Z")
Did we not JUST have two rounds of voting no on this idea? What has changed since the last two times in the last month the community voted this idea down? ---
**Author:** ![DedHeadJ](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/dedheadj/32/31153_2.png) [@DedHeadJ](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/DedHeadJ)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/7 "2023-09-20T04:55:20Z")
Suggestions around the first two rounds are fine but during the Governance round it should be higher to combat the whales who come in during the very last moments. I voted #1 but would prefer 10M-10.5M during the Governance round. ---
**Author:** ![CheddarQueso](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/cheddarqueso/32/30283_2.png) [@CheddarQueso](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/CheddarQueso)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/8 "2023-09-20T22:27:47Z")
what proposals have passed in the last year with more than 9M VP? I agree with the lower tiers but not the governance tier… ---
**Author:** ![jar0d](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/jar0d/32/28367_2.png) [@jar0d](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/jar0d)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/9 "2023-09-20T23:15:53Z")
People thinking of Grants that won’t be impacted by this change. ---
**Author:** ![pablo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/pablo/32/30847_2.png) [@pablo](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/pablo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/11 "2023-09-21T09:41:36Z")
I’m fine increasing threshold on poll and draft specially now that lot of people has 500K delegated VP. But I don’t think increasing governance proposal threshold is necessary. Then I vote no to change it for now. ---
**Author:** ![nwiz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/nwiz/32/27377_2.png) [@nwiz](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/nwiz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/12 "2023-09-21T09:45:27Z")
Thank you all for your feedback. > [@CheddarQueso](#): > > what proposals have passed in the last year with more than 9M VP? Hey @CheddarQueso. Since esteban’s second wave of VP delegations, we have seen proposals easily surpassing 9M participating VP with one recent proposal amassing more than 20M VP. Here are some examples: > **[Compatibility of Grant Project Deliverables with the last stable version of SDK](https://decentraland.org/governance/proposal/?id=baecb000-5620-11ee-82e9-f78a03c906a4)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[Compatibility of Grant Project Deliverables with the last stable version of SDK\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=28a5ee50-48ce-11ee-8dc1-47e81c0c49b1) ## Summary The deliverables of projects funded by the... > **[\[CLARIFICATION\] Should DAO proposals have a pre-defined 'Abstain' voting option?](https://decentraland.org/governance/proposal/?id=ea45aa20-517d-11ee-a817-7dc33a6da5df)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[Should DAO proposals have a pre-defined 'Abstain' voting option?\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=2d146330-9e70-11ed-868f-0d503a0e5b7e) ## Summary This proposal seeks to clarify a contradiction present in... > **[Should the LAND-to-MANA Ratio Be Revised ?](https://decentraland.org/governance/proposal/?id=75cf8f80-4430-11ee-ab1f-97157a05bdec)** > > \*\*SUMMARY\*\* This proposal seeks the Community Feedback on the MANA weight of each plot of LAND when participating in the DAO voting. \*\*DESCRIPTION\*\* The \*\*\[Decentraland... ---
**Author:** ![jar0d](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/jar0d/32/28367_2.png) [@jar0d](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/jar0d)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/13 "2023-09-21T11:32:28Z")
> [@nwiz](#): > > participating VP That wasn’t her question ---
**Author:** ![nwiz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/nwiz/32/27377_2.png) [@nwiz](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/nwiz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/14 "2023-09-21T12:54:05Z")
> **[Purchase of LAND in Genesis City](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=a315f220-e31b-11ed-ae6b-bdc7e2b26a35)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[Purchase of LAND in Genesis City\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=b4478e00-dd94-11ed-93f4-8f8fa30ce0cd) > **[DAO Grants Program - Budgeting System](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=bfab7b70-7b75-11ed-ad27-015f26e7c35c)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[DAO Grants Program - Budgeting System\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=b2626480-75b0-11ed-bc92-ef497b387215) > **[DAO Grants Program - New Categories & Requirements](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=77475620-7b74-11ed-ad27-015f26e7c35c)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[DAO Grants Program - New Categories & Requirements\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=fec954c0-75ae-11ed-bc92-ef497b387215) > **[DAO Grants Program - New Vesting Contract](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=71987090-7b71-11ed-ad27-015f26e7c35c)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[DAO Grants Program - New Vesting Contract\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=10b93a80-75ad-11ed-bc92-ef497b387215) > **[DAO Grants Program - New Tiers & VP Threshold](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=853092a0-7b70-11ed-ad27-015f26e7c35c)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[DAO Grants Program - New Tiers & VP Threshold\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=69b1fb50-75ac-11ed-bc92-ef497b387215) > **[Should Grant Request Proposals require at least 100 VP to submit?](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=4e57fe70-3084-11ee-a512-65477fceb1b0)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[Should Grant Request Proposals require at least 100 VP to submit?\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=73b95760-c1d3-11ed-95a1-11f47a37eb17) > **[Limit Fund Appropriation to Grant Proposals](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=1aeabde0-272c-11ee-8e2a-0990078ddc40)** > > \## Linked Draft Proposal \[Limit Fund Appropriation to Grant Proposals\](https://governance.decentraland.org/proposal/?id=dca499e0-3f03-11ed-9eb2-21be7ab68113) ---
**Author:** ![dao](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/dao/32/386_2.png) [@dao](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/dao)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/15 "2023-09-22T12:02:02Z")
Should we increase VP Thresholds for Governance Process Proposals? This proposal is now in status: FINISHED. Voting Results: - Option 1 42% 3,146,634 VP (60 votes) - Option 2 35% 2,600,852 VP (24 votes) - Do not change thresholds 22% 1,655,892 VP (9 votes) - Invalid question/options 1% 788 VP (2 votes) ---
**Author:** ![dao](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.decentraland.org/dao/32/386_2.png) [@dao](https://forum.decentraland.org/u/dao)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.decentraland.org/t/dao-45862f1-should-we-increase-vp-thresholds-for-governance-process-proposals/20622/16 "2023-09-27T00:14:51Z")
Should we increase VP Thresholds for Governance Process Proposals? This proposal has been PASSED by a DAO Committee Member (0xfb1afa4dc069ffb47b19dbee196045d508fcd5a2)